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May 11, 2006

DNA and Pubic Hair Found In Duke Lacrosse Rape Case. Partial DNA Tissue Match Found.

by @ 9:34 pm. Filed under Questionable Items

Now there is finally a case. Although the details are interesting. Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong got a private laboratory to do additional DNA testing and they have found a partial DNA match. The partial match was found on a finger nail, that was in the trash at the Duke lacrosse players’ house. The partial match was connected with the 3rd player the accuser picked from the lop-sided photo line-up with 90% certainty. So there is a little something of interest here, but the means by which it all was acquired is a questionable. Also a pubic hair was found on the stripper, but the hair has no root. So no way to do DNA testing on it. They just know it’s a hair that belongs to a White man.

This along with the other details like a hospital finding of rape and yes she did say she was raped, makes for an actual case. It’s all shaky, but there is enough here now in my opinion to keep the case open. I can’t say I know the 2 charged players actually did anything, but there does appear to be a case.


ABC News video report is here.
Their text report is here.


A local paper has all the pertinent details.
I think it offers more than the ABC News report.

First DNA link possible in lacrosse case

DURHAM — Tissue found under the fingernail of an exotic dancer who claimed she was raped at a Duke University lacrosse party may match a player who was there, several well-placed sources said Wednesday.

Analyzing the tissue, scientists concluded it came from the same genetic pool and was “consistent” with the bodily makeup of one of 46 lacrosse players who gave DNA samples for testing, the sources said.

But because a complete DNA pattern was not obtained from the tissue, it was not possible to match it with the nearly 100 percent certainty that DNA results usually offer, the sources added.

The dancer told police she clawed at three attackers as they raped and sodomized her for 30 minutes during the March 13-14 lacrosse house party at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd.

Police later recovered several stick-on acrylic fingernails from a trashcan, and the tissue in question was found under one of those nails, the sources said.

In addition, the sources said a male pubic hair had been linked to the case. But because the hair lacked a root, no identifiable DNA was obtained from it, they said. The only thing that could be determined was that the hair came from a white man, the sources said.

They did not pinpoint where the hair was found. But when police investigate rape cases, they normally comb through the alleged victim’s pubic hair to determine whether male hairs are intermingled.

On DNA from hair, Kessis agreed that a common method for extracting and analyzing DNA, called nuclear DNA, usually requires tissue from a hair root. Another method, however, called mitochondrial DNA, can obtain DNA from hair shafts through DNA sequencing. That method yields results that are “not quite as probative,” with matching probabilities typically between 1 in 200 and 1 in 4,000 to 5,000.

Of course recently I’ve been saying this accuser is a liar, that needs to go to prison and that was based on prior findings. Because there were too many shaky details and given her claims of clawing into someone’s arms, I felt there should have been a DNA match. Now there is a match, but it’s debatable, given it came from a nail in the lacrosse players’ trashcan. It would be more convincing if it was a nail she still had on. For those who feel I’ve always been attacking the accuser, you should know that initially I felt she was telling the truth, until no DNA match was found. Now we have a partial DNA match and pubic hair. So I now say there is a case and await further details. I don’t know if there is enough to actually convict anyone at this point given all the shaky information, but right now there is a case worth continuing investigation on. I’ve gone on both sides of this case and at this point I’m going to see what happens next.

I maintain my statements about every single one of the camera hunting, attention seeking race hustlers involved in this matter. Their involvement has had no bearing on this case and only stirred animosity based on race. And people who were calling for conviction with hardly any evidence, showed they care about something other than facts.



8 Responses to “DNA and Pubic Hair Found In Duke Lacrosse Rape Case. Partial DNA Tissue Match Found.”

  1. Ryan Anakalea Says:

    is the “genetic pool” that of a white male? How big or smallof a pool are we tlaking? Not much information t go on. Seems suspicious.

  2. IndependentConservative Says:

    As that local paper mentions, it really depends on how many DNA points match. We don’t know that yet. Not to mention they were found in the trash.

  3. AirborneVet Says:

    The accuser has also changed her story at least three times.

  4. IndependentConservative Says:

    She also said one of the guys had a mustache. None of them have one and did not that night. But depending on the physical evidence, anything she says outside of “I’ve been raped” can be viewed as her being under the influence of a date rape drug. If there is evidence of a date rape drug having been used. I’ve heard rumors Mike Nifong might be keeping that card up his sleeve.

  5. Independent Conservative Says:

    End the Duke Lacrosse Rape Case Now!

    OK, just as I was thinking that there was a case, because of a leak from within Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong’s office regarding DNA. It turns out that “leak” withheld some information, that totally flushes this entire case d…

  6. Voice of reason Says:

    There is no hair found. Nifong’s office leaked a lie. They are so desperate! I hope Nifong’s the next one indicted!

  7. Voice of reason Says:

    Comparing LAX case to that of Scottsboro Nine

    I am a college instructor who teaches criminal justice and a criminal defense attorney. In my entire career I have never seen such a bizarre and unfair case as the one against three Duke lacrosse players.

    I teach a class about a similar case in American history, the Scottsboro Nine. In March 1931, a group of nine black teen-agers was charged with rape on incredibly flimsy evidence in Scottsboro, Ala. The nine were originally charged with the rape of two white women. Even after one woman testified that she lied about the rape, the nine teens continued to face rape charges and the threat of death by execution.

    In the Scottsboro case, the two women were part-time prostitutes, but that didn’t matter, nor did it matter that at least one of the boys was known to be physically unable to have sex, and two of the boys were only 13. Like Durham, the real issue was race.

    In Scottsboro, nine young men were wrongly charged and condemned because they were black, and today the Duke lacrosse players have, in my opinion, been wrongly charged and condemned because they are white and the alleged victim is black.

    The one constant with respect to the two cases is racism. I often ask my students if it possible for blacks to discriminate against whites in the same type of mindless ignorance as the KKK or the way the mob went after the Scottsboro Nine. The answer I receive is yes, and my students point to Durham as proof.

    JOSEPH R. GUTHEINZ JR
    Houston
    May 20, 2006

  8. Voice of reason Says:

    Duke Lacrosse Rape Accuser Mentioned No Condoms Were Used
    It seems the defense keeps finding more to support their side of things, with each new piece of information they get. Now from that stack of 1,300 papers, they have discovered that the stripper accuser mentioned no condoms were used. No condoms and…
    The stripper’s body was completely void of any sign of a sexual assault (except for signs of recent vaginal and anal from her boyfriend). The alleged crime scene was completely devoid of DNA.

    It is impossible that a crime scene with three drunk men in a small enclosed room with a fighting and clawing woman being orally, virginally, and anally penetrated not leave any DNA evidence of urine, blood, vaginal fluid, sweat, fecal matter, scat smears, saliva, tears, or semen… especially if condoms were used. How would they take off the condoms during all this chaos without spilling, smearing, or touching the content inside or outside of the condom?

    When investigators questioned the stripper after DNA tests on the semen found inside her vagina and rectum didn’t match any of the Duke players, the stripper admitted to having had sex with at least three men around the time of the alleged rape. The stripper named her boyfriend and two men who drove her to Duke.

    When questioned, the “drivers” said they would drop her off at several places, including hotel rooms.

    It appears that the stripper has sex with men for rides to her strip shows…Nasty!

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