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		<title>By: Independent Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2005/12/26/kwanzaa/comment-page-1/#comment-3521</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;B.J. Ellis on the Racist Fraud Known as Kwanzaa.&lt;/strong&gt;

	BJ Ellis has put together a fabulous blog post about Kwanzaa and those who endorse it. 
	
	
	
Kwanzaa:  A Black Racist Celebration
	
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>B.J. Ellis on the Racist Fraud Known as Kwanzaa.</strong></p>
<p>	BJ Ellis has put together a fabulous blog post about Kwanzaa and those who endorse it. </p>
<p>Kwanzaa:  A Black Racist Celebration</p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
Despite the fact that ignorant blacks spend countless hours in church every week, they still feel obligated to&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Independent Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2005/12/26/kwanzaa/comment-page-1/#comment-763</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Attempts to smear CORE and Mississippi  Governor Haley Barbour&lt;/strong&gt;

	This past Martin Luther King Day The Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) gave out honors as they do annually.  But one particular invited guest has caused the Lefty spin machines to spew some vicious race-bait, towards an organization run by Black Cons...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Attempts to smear CORE and Mississippi  Governor Haley Barbour</strong></p>
<p>	This past Martin Luther King Day The Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) gave out honors as they do annually.  But one particular invited guest has caused the Lefty spin machines to spew some vicious race-bait, towards an organization run by Black Cons&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Independent Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2005/12/26/kwanzaa/comment-page-1/#comment-727</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Random Thoughts on Martin Luther King Jr. and The MLK Holiday&lt;/strong&gt;

	Random Thoughts on Martin Luther King Jr. and The MLK Holiday
	
	Martin Luther King Jr. was a Christian minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, trying to do as best he could.  As he said himself &#8220;I just want to do God&#8217;s will&#8221;.  It is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Random Thoughts on Martin Luther King Jr. and The MLK Holiday</strong></p>
<p>	Random Thoughts on Martin Luther King Jr. and The MLK Holiday</p>
<p>	Martin Luther King Jr. was a Christian minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, trying to do as best he could.  As he said himself &#8220;I just want to do God&#8217;s will&#8221;.  It is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Independent Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2005/12/26/kwanzaa/comment-page-1/#comment-714</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Whites not allowed to cover a Kwanzaa celebration and Blacks told to stop doing business with Whites&lt;/strong&gt;

	This one is a pretty tangled web, of one commentator attempting to berate some bigots while ignoring the bigotry he endorses himself.
	First, lets start with the easy part of this mess.  Buffalo News reporter Rod Watson takes shots at some organizers ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Whites not allowed to cover a Kwanzaa celebration and Blacks told to stop doing business with Whites</strong></p>
<p>	This one is a pretty tangled web, of one commentator attempting to berate some bigots while ignoring the bigotry he endorses himself.<br />
	First, lets start with the easy part of this mess.  Buffalo News reporter Rod Watson takes shots at some organizers &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Independent Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2005/12/26/kwanzaa/comment-page-1/#comment-710</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;If the Muslims want to cry about occupation, I think she&#8217;s got a point!&lt;/strong&gt;

	Shay over at Booker Rising has written an Op-ed that is best read in full.  I think she makes an excellent point.
	
	
	
Excerpt from: An Anti-Occupation Proposal
	
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Their occupation in Africa has occurred for far longer than the existence of th...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>If the Muslims want to cry about occupation, I think she&#8217;s got a point!</strong></p>
<p>	Shay over at Booker Rising has written an Op-ed that is best read in full.  I think she makes an excellent point.</p>
<p>Excerpt from: An Anti-Occupation Proposal</p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
Their occupation in Africa has occurred for far longer than the existence of th&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Independent Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2005/12/26/kwanzaa/comment-page-1/#comment-688</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 05:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;US Christian accomplishments and efforts in 2005&lt;/strong&gt;

	While this is probably not a complete list, I thought it would be good to list many of the accomplishments made by Christians during 2005.  Feel free to inform me of anything you feel should be listed.  They are not listed in any particular order, wit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>US Christian accomplishments and efforts in 2005</strong></p>
<p>	While this is probably not a complete list, I thought it would be good to list many of the accomplishments made by Christians during 2005.  Feel free to inform me of anything you feel should be listed.  They are not listed in any particular order, wit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2005/12/26/kwanzaa/comment-page-1/#comment-418</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I&#039;m not into repeating.  I&#039;ve already said it.  If you want to celebrate this Black Communist &quot;holiday&quot; that&#039;s up to you.

You know who is behind it and what they endorse.

Pretty funny that Karenga probably has never said a kind word about a Jew, but he used a Jewish Menorah to hold those candles.  Oh but I&#039;m sure he&#039;s made up some story about it being &quot;African&quot;.  

While you&#039;re defending principles developed by racist, you want to take a stab at promoting the engineering feats of the Confederacy?  I mean if we want to talk about taking some good out of evil, then don&#039;t stop your quest at Karenga&#039;s principles.  

Ron B, you&#039;re sounding like a man that is promoting the engineering skills of Germany while Hitler was in power.  Until the racist and socialist components are removed the nation and in this case the &quot;holiday&quot; along with it&#039;s principles are evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I&#8217;m not into repeating.  I&#8217;ve already said it.  If you want to celebrate this Black Communist &#8220;holiday&#8221; that&#8217;s up to you.</p>
<p>You know who is behind it and what they endorse.</p>
<p>Pretty funny that Karenga probably has never said a kind word about a Jew, but he used a Jewish Menorah to hold those candles.  Oh but I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s made up some story about it being &#8220;African&#8221;.  </p>
<p>While you&#8217;re defending principles developed by racist, you want to take a stab at promoting the engineering feats of the Confederacy?  I mean if we want to talk about taking some good out of evil, then don&#8217;t stop your quest at Karenga&#8217;s principles.  </p>
<p>Ron B, you&#8217;re sounding like a man that is promoting the engineering skills of Germany while Hitler was in power.  Until the racist and socialist components are removed the nation and in this case the &#8220;holiday&#8221; along with it&#8217;s principles are evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron_B</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2005/12/26/kwanzaa/comment-page-1/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 20:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D-Man, others:

Here are the principles.  Please define how they are &quot;bad&quot; for Black folks to follow:

Umoja [OO-MO-JAH] (&quot;U-N-I-T-Y&quot;  Queen Latifah) - To strive for and maintain unity in the family, community, nation, race. (Black Candle)

Kujichagulia [KOO-GEE-CHA-GOO-LEE-YAH] (Self-Determination) - To define ourselves, name ourselves, create for ourselves and speak for ourselves instead of being defined, named, created for and spoken for by others. (Red Candle)

Ujima [OO-GEE-MAH] (Creative Work &amp; Responsibility) - To build and maintain our community together and make our sisters&#039; and brothers&#039; problems our problems and solve them together. (Green Candle)

Ujamaa [OO-JAH-MAH] (Cooperative Economics) - To build and maintain our own stores and other businesses and to profit from them together. (Red Candle)

Nia [NEE-YAH] (Purpose) - To make our collective vocation the building and developing of our community in order to restore our people to their traditional greatness. (Green Candle)

Kuumba [KOO-OOM-BAH] (Creativity) - To do always as much as we can, in the way we can, in order to leave our community more beautiful and beneficial than we inherited it. (Red Candle)

Imani [EE-MAH-NEE] (Faith) - To believe with all our people, our parents, our teachers, our leaders and the righteousness and victory of our struggle. (Green Candle)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D-Man, others:</p>
<p>Here are the principles.  Please define how they are &#8220;bad&#8221; for Black folks to follow:</p>
<p>Umoja [OO-MO-JAH] (&#8220;U-N-I-T-Y&#8221;  Queen Latifah) &#8211; To strive for and maintain unity in the family, community, nation, race. (Black Candle)</p>
<p>Kujichagulia [KOO-GEE-CHA-GOO-LEE-YAH] (Self-Determination) &#8211; To define ourselves, name ourselves, create for ourselves and speak for ourselves instead of being defined, named, created for and spoken for by others. (Red Candle)</p>
<p>Ujima [OO-GEE-MAH] (Creative Work &amp; Responsibility) &#8211; To build and maintain our community together and make our sisters&#8217; and brothers&#8217; problems our problems and solve them together. (Green Candle)</p>
<p>Ujamaa [OO-JAH-MAH] (Cooperative Economics) &#8211; To build and maintain our own stores and other businesses and to profit from them together. (Red Candle)</p>
<p>Nia [NEE-YAH] (Purpose) &#8211; To make our collective vocation the building and developing of our community in order to restore our people to their traditional greatness. (Green Candle)</p>
<p>Kuumba [KOO-OOM-BAH] (Creativity) &#8211; To do always as much as we can, in the way we can, in order to leave our community more beautiful and beneficial than we inherited it. (Red Candle)</p>
<p>Imani [EE-MAH-NEE] (Faith) &#8211; To believe with all our people, our parents, our teachers, our leaders and the righteousness and victory of our struggle. (Green Candle)</p>
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		<title>By: brooklyn</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree that Kwanzaa is a &quot;is a WORTHY framework&quot;, it is in fact quite the opposite. It&#039;s a boat riddled with holes which would eventually sink us all. It is from it&#039;s foundation a seperatist event and I think that alone disqualifies it from being a worthy framework...IMHO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that Kwanzaa is a &#8220;is a WORTHY framework&#8221;, it is in fact quite the opposite. It&#8217;s a boat riddled with holes which would eventually sink us all. It is from it&#8217;s foundation a seperatist event and I think that alone disqualifies it from being a worthy framework&#8230;IMHO</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2005/12/26/kwanzaa/comment-page-1/#comment-345</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew I&#039;d find something we could disagree on one day :) .

I&#039;m no fan of Blacks thinking that success in America comes from exclusion.  If that means I&#039;m with the enemy, then I am the enemy.  Because I see Blacks taking every opportunity that comes there way no matter what race provides it.  Then running to claim that racial exclusion is the answer to all problems.  Blacks can&#039;t have it both ways.  The case of the story behind Thanksgiving is far better known to all Americans than the life of the founder of Kwanzaa.  And everyone can choose if they want to celebrate Thanksgiving.  I&#039;ve made the choice to remain in the land of those Pilgrims and later generations of Americans have made plenty of efforts to make amends in areas where past generations failed.

Every other holiday in this nation is not exclusive based on race.  Whites are better accepted into Cinco De Mayo celebrations then they are to be part of Kwanzaa.  Because to include Whites in Kwanzaa would result in a Communist version of modern day America.  Some might say that is where we are right now.  Kwanzaa is not for Whites.  This cannot be said about any other holiday on the basis of race.

When it comes to other holidays some are matters of faith and others are not, but I&#039;m not going to be happy segregation ended just so I can run back to it and claim it will save Black people.

Discipline and a strong family unit is what is best for anyone regardless of their race.

If all Blacks followed the principles of Karenga&#039;s &quot;holiday&quot; then all Blacks would be Communists.  And Communism continues to be a proven failure.

Blacks who accept opportunities from people of all races, work smart and maintain a family unit have proven to do much better in life.

Please show me where other frameworks like Walter Williams &quot;How Not to be Poor&quot;, see: http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/walterwilliams/2005/05/11/15383.html have any foundation in racial exclusion?  It does not.  Plans like Mr. Williams are not racially exclusive and proven to work.  He&#039;s got more than enough data to prove it.

Blacks don&#039;t need to segregate themselves to succeed.  Some Blacks are holding onto the vestiges of a segregated America, while others are moving forward without it.  The same success I and other Blacks achieved was done without excluding ourselves from the rest of America.  So there is no need to lie to our fellow Blacks and claim that some form of racial exclusion will save all Black people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew I&#8217;d find something we could disagree on one day <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no fan of Blacks thinking that success in America comes from exclusion.  If that means I&#8217;m with the enemy, then I am the enemy.  Because I see Blacks taking every opportunity that comes there way no matter what race provides it.  Then running to claim that racial exclusion is the answer to all problems.  Blacks can&#8217;t have it both ways.  The case of the story behind Thanksgiving is far better known to all Americans than the life of the founder of Kwanzaa.  And everyone can choose if they want to celebrate Thanksgiving.  I&#8217;ve made the choice to remain in the land of those Pilgrims and later generations of Americans have made plenty of efforts to make amends in areas where past generations failed.</p>
<p>Every other holiday in this nation is not exclusive based on race.  Whites are better accepted into Cinco De Mayo celebrations then they are to be part of Kwanzaa.  Because to include Whites in Kwanzaa would result in a Communist version of modern day America.  Some might say that is where we are right now.  Kwanzaa is not for Whites.  This cannot be said about any other holiday on the basis of race.</p>
<p>When it comes to other holidays some are matters of faith and others are not, but I&#8217;m not going to be happy segregation ended just so I can run back to it and claim it will save Black people.</p>
<p>Discipline and a strong family unit is what is best for anyone regardless of their race.</p>
<p>If all Blacks followed the principles of Karenga&#8217;s &#8220;holiday&#8221; then all Blacks would be Communists.  And Communism continues to be a proven failure.</p>
<p>Blacks who accept opportunities from people of all races, work smart and maintain a family unit have proven to do much better in life.</p>
<p>Please show me where other frameworks like Walter Williams &#8220;How Not to be Poor&#8221;, see: <a href="http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/walterwilliams/2005/05/11/15383.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/walterwilliams/2005/05/11/15383.html</a> have any foundation in racial exclusion?  It does not.  Plans like Mr. Williams are not racially exclusive and proven to work.  He&#8217;s got more than enough data to prove it.</p>
<p>Blacks don&#8217;t need to segregate themselves to succeed.  Some Blacks are holding onto the vestiges of a segregated America, while others are moving forward without it.  The same success I and other Blacks achieved was done without excluding ourselves from the rest of America.  So there is no need to lie to our fellow Blacks and claim that some form of racial exclusion will save all Black people.</p>
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